Liu Xin: Former US officials xxx has branded a Chinese diplomat arises disgraceafter his twitter comment on race relation in America. What happen? And theChina releases economic data for the second quarter this year. Will be askingwho is wining the trade war? Welcome to the Point coming to you from Beijing, I’mLiu Xin.
Liu Xin: Zhao Lijian, the deputy chief ofmission at the Chinese embassy in Pakistan and former US National Security advisor xxx has been called in a word war ontwitter. Zhao twittered that part of Washington DC are all xxx for white peopleand that quite that was saying black in white out. The comments were re-bottledto western criticism about China’s Xinjiang policy. xxx responded by callingZhao raises this grace and shockingly xxx even mistakenly calling on theChinese ambassador to the US to remove his from his post. Were Zhao’s commentjustified? And should rights respond with such strong words. Joining me for thediscussion in the studio are ambassador Hua Liming, former senior Chinese diplomaticand Einar Tangen, a political and economic affairs coming. Gentlemen, welcome tothe Point. So let us here a little bit exactly what was being said. First whatwas Mr. Zhao Lijian twittered. He said, there is saying black in and white outwhich means as long as a black family under white people who quits and criesthe apartment will for sharply. Exactly what was he talking about? Is he sayingthe xxx.
Einar Tangen: Let’s put the samecontact. He wasn’t trying to talk about Washington DC in terms of specificinterest. What he was talking about was he fail the China has been unfairly xxxand criticism is raising. He said look, you have your problems, we have ourproblems. And this xxx critical to use xxx so box and so doing this. Now he wasresponding to this word xxx. There were 22 nations who signed on the UnitedNations criticizing China over the Xinjiang situation. And there are 37countries including all of the people at least who signed the letter saying” No,we support China’s approaches to Xinjiang.” So he was really trying to monishthe people in Washington to stop being so xxx pay attention to...
Liu Xin: My question really is what’s hetelling the truth when he was talking about black in and white out. I mean allhe discriminated against the black or white people.
Einar Tangen: Sorry about that. I waswarrying about Washington DC. Washington DC has a long history of segregation.It would happen if areas developed by the developers, they will put in that ifyou were black or Jewish family not white, you could not move in. So this iseven extant sometime to irish. It’s a very discriminatory cause. So you havewhole neighborhood to be only white. And then after the balabala when they havesegregation coming in like this, then they are starting to change. So whatwould happen is unxxx mostly real state agencies who were looking for saleswould move by family even xxx owner. And thereby they would call it black xxx,white family immediately move out. That’s not necessary this situation today.We have more human junior society and living in Washington DC generally takes alot of money. There are still areas in DC which is a kind of xxx. They are verysegregated, very high proportion of black family. very low proportion of white.
Liu Xin: Ok, let me ask you this questionbecause at this moment we do not have the possibility to real all of his twittersactually he deleted some of his twitters. Having gone through all of the twitters,understanding of the context what he meant, do you think he said thingsinappropriate?
Einar Tangen: No, I don’t think so. Imean at this city one of the most segregated in United States pointing out a problemis not being racist xxx truth about the situation. He were simply trying tosay, look you have your problems, we have our problems.
Liu Xin: Ok, ambassador Hua, what’s your firsttake reading this in time incident whatever what’s happening? First of all, fora long time nobody saw the Chinese diplomat would be so outspoken talking bargaincalling the other sides disgrace and disgusting as well.
Hua Liming: Really I appreciate theyoung generation of diplomat doing in that post. I don’t know Mr. Zhao Lijun. But I know he’susing very modern tools of massive media like twitter which we didn’t have anythinglike this when we were diplomat. So they are using the modern and very latesttools of massive media to defend China and to tell the world what is going onin China, what is going on in Xinjiang, what is truth. I think he is doing jobvery well. I do appreciate.
Liu Xin: A lot of criticism against Chinaapproach in Xinjiang claim these regard human rights. I guess in that sense maybehe was trying to draw some parallel between the problems United States faces interms of human rights and between the kind of accusation the China does notrespect human rights. Einar, what’s your observation in this front.
Einar Tangen: I think he could use amuch better example if the US so concerns about xxx things like that balabala andcalls the configuration that we have ongoing right now. It’s really whatbalabala. There was never any mention of ISIS any the xxx and group dominatingthe xxx now. Until that happens, so I think it will be much better he did this.I think he would xxx lost people. He spends 10 years in Washington DC, he has180,000 followers on twitter, and he is been vocal about international issueespecially as he goes to China. A lot of Chinese diplomats go abroad, often frustratedxxx and reality. What they know would be truth. And what they hear consistentlyon the daily basis in the press. I think their a certain frustration that xxxyounger generation is less likely to support that.
Liu Xin: Let’s take a look at the kind of responsethat xxx had against Mr. Zhao’s twitter for instance she called him a racistxxx and shockingly xxx xxx. And she actually called out Chinese ambassador tothe United States and said you need to make sure that you are doing the rightthing and remove Mr. Zhao from his post where Mr. Zhao actually posted. AmbassadorHua, how do you look at this kind of reaction from Mrs. xxx?
Hua Liming: I would call herself ignorant.We know what kind of people can be called the xxx. The person posting theirinsulting the leadership or insulting nations or do something harmful to the countryto the host country. But nothing to do with that. And ridiculously Mr. Zhao nowis posting xxx.
Liu Xin: Basically you are mentioning thisline said by Mrs. xxx when she said in normal time you meaning Mr. Zhao wouldbe PNG xxx xxx xxx for this. It’s very interesting because you are seeing formerdiplomats or you know very senior level US officials using a very stronglanguage based on very shaky facts calling someone a racist disgrace and mistakinginformation about the post of this person. Einar,how do you look at that? Are we looking at the individual case? Or are welooking at some kinds of phenomenon on folding developing on the twitter.
Einar Tangen: Thereare two tracks, the international media is a xxx going on tying to convincepeople one thing or another. Donald Trump and America is not convincing China’sthreat. This not come about overnight. It hasn’t come about because of theterror. What you see is a very considered campaign since 2016. The number ofxxx about China has increased not by double, by treble and xxx. Today if youpick up any newspaper or you watch any television especially balabala, theywill be negative stories about what’s wrong with China. So this is part xxx. Thesecond part is Susan xxx. Susan has reputation for being very aggressive,shooting for the heat. She still has a little bit about against China andRussia and other countries. Because of this situation, because they not backthe US initiative balabala. So she has a number of things in the pass. What’s unpredictableis she didn’t cover her basis. If you were the former UN ambassador, the firstthing you know is knowledge, is key you can not make an argument unless you canfind it. She went after these men xxx she’s not even in the US, notunderstanding the point she was making.
Liu Xin: Andnot making the effort to check its background, to check her information. Thatbacks the question, I mean is the twitter space being invaxxx by this kind ofresponsible of the limit... remarks even by every educated people who are verysupposedly educated, ambassador Hua?
Hua Liming: I don’tbelieve the xxx’s twitter has been xxx by somebody. To me she’s quite a ideologyand very strong on her ideology on her value and. I think she’s very stronglysupported by the US. balabala...
Einar Tangen: Butshe’s not been always on the human rights. She’s very supported the situationand democratic republic congress when human rights xxx calling on her to take amuch different sense. She has been on both sides depending on where she feelsthings are. But in terms of this, I think you have to point to Donald Trump.Donald Trump has changed the way people interact immediately. His twitters xxxare on a daily base xxx. They are overwhelming people. Now I think people theyneed respond in kind. I don’t know if it’s the right direction but you will seemore about that.
